Phyllis Gardner and Elizabeth Holmes

For women in STEM, the pressure to succeed is high.

But so are the risks if you try to fake it until you make it.

Part One of a two-part show.

Frenemies…Rivalry is a bitch..

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Episode Credits:

Written and performed by Jennifer Beck

Executive Produced by Jennifer Beck.

Additional production assistance provided by Erin Iris and David Beck.

Music:

A Foolish Game by Snowflake (c) copyright 2014 Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution  (3.0) license. https://ccmixter.org/files/snowflake/46164 Featuring Admiral Bob (admiralbob77)

Ethereal Space by Snowflake (c) copyright 2011 Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution  (3.0) license. https://ccmixer.org/files/snowflake/33318 Featuring Zep Hurme

Frenemies is an original production of Toil and Trouble Media. All rights reserved.

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